Let me begin with a disclaimer:I'm a Christian. If that means you don't want to read this comment, that'a fine there was your disclaimer, Jesus loves you. I subscribed to hear other people's opinions and beliefs, and don't normally comment, but I wanted to clear up something.
I'm pretty sure the tik tok is attempting to debate a different point then you (though I will agree she's doing it very poorly, plus I only watched the beginning bc I had heard the analogy before). She's trying to debate the reason that we tell people about our religion and the love of jesus, not about the rules. I agree that you shouldn't have people come up to you and go "hey, I have a magic book and a funny feeling in my tummy that proves it, and it says you shouldn't do this". We as christians tend to forget that, that is not only not what the bible says, but ends up turning more people off of Christianity than just about anything else.
A better analogy for the love of Jesus would be that you have an alleged cure for cancer, that you used on yourself to prove it works. If you had that, you wouldn't hide it, you would want to tell EVERYONE as you just found a way to save lives. That being said, it's an untested drug, that you only have word of mouth evidence for, so some people don't want to take it. You wouldn't shove the drug down their throat without there consent (at least you shouldn't) but you absolutely would go up to every person you can and say "HEY! I found this drug, and I can't explain it, but the cancer that I had is gone. I can't force you to take this drug, but I would be a horrible person if I didn't at least try to convince you too take it".
The reason we as christians try to tell everyone about our faith is because we found a joy that we want to share with EVERYONE, because we all have a metaphorical cancer, being darkness, depression, addiction, anxiety, or whatever you personally struggle with and Jesus' love can cure it.
Thank you for reading this. If you want to debate, or ask questions on any of this, my email is jwkannel@gmail.com.
I always enjoy your emails. Very glad that your hard work has paid off for many people to reject their indoctrination. Thanks. Concerning the post from a family friend about the spirituality debate. So much there annoyed me.
“He is coming back some time unknown to man”:
Clearly this person only knows the indoctrination, has never read the texts carefully or thought for himself. Jesus preached that judgment day would happen during the lifetimes of his disciples and other priests, That generation (generation of people he was talking to) all over Matthew, Mark and Luke. This expectation of the imminent destruction of their oppressors, the Romans, by their god was common at the time, not even original to Jesus. This is why Jesus said to sell everything you own and provide the poor, come with him and leave their families. These events were to happen very soon. He described the events such as stars falling to Earth and the moon turning red, the arrival of the son of man to earth with his angels, judgement day where all men would be judged, and then told his disciples that some standing there would not taste death before all these events happened or that these events would happen that generation. Jesus was wrong, never happened. Even Apostle Paul, in 1 Corinthians 15, believed judgement day was imminent. A verse often quoted says the precise hour or day is not known, Jesus said during that Generation it would happen. Later Christians realized Jesus was wrong and adapted Ancient Greek Fiction of souls (Socrates & Plato 400 BC) & afterlives (Homer’s Odyssey 700 BC) into the Christian tenet that a person’s disembodied soul would go to heaven/hell when they die. Souls were popularized by Socrates/Plato 400 BC. They admitted they could be wrong. They had zero knowledge of brain physiology, only imagination.
“Greatest man in history”:
No, perhaps the greatest legend in history. Jesus the legend is sourced from the Jewish man Yeshua. His legend grew from ‘games of telephone’, by science ignorant, magic believing, superstitious, primitive people mixing more ancient fictional ideas, stealing from older religions, telling stories to get others to believe in their version of Jesus.
“He had no army, yet kings feared him”:
No, the Roman emperor of that time had no idea who Jesus was, no third party mentions. The Pharisees feared him.
“No battles, yet He conquered the world”:
Not really in many ways. Christianity holds 31 percent of belief in the world today, hardly conquered. The spread of Christianity is due to a Roman Emperor Constantine, for political reasons of control, and had nothing to do with truth. There was much infighting amongst his empire over religions. His mother was Christian. Christianity had only 10% belief at that time. In 312 CE, Emperor Constantine dictated that Christianity would be the prevailing religion, thus putting the power & gold of the Roman Empire behind it. Constantine is mainly responsible for its spread, and later in 391 CE, Roman Emperor Theodosius outlawed its competitor Paganism. Again to unite their empire, control over people.
“He committed no crime, yet they crucified him”:
Sigh, again wrong. Jesus died for breaking the laws of Rome. Charges were political, sedition against Rome. ‘And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto him, Thou sayest it”. Placard on the cross said King of the Jews. The Barabbas story is fiction, no such historical precedent existed. Josephus the historian makes no mention of Barabbas. That partly created anti-semitism. The entire Jesus died for your sins was made up by later Christians.
“Yet he lives today”:
Only in the minds of indoctrinated Christians. Religion is propagated over millennia by the indoctrination of naive, trusting children by parents who were also indoctrinated as children. A vicious cycle of deceit for control.
Let me begin with a disclaimer:I'm a Christian. If that means you don't want to read this comment, that'a fine there was your disclaimer, Jesus loves you. I subscribed to hear other people's opinions and beliefs, and don't normally comment, but I wanted to clear up something.
I'm pretty sure the tik tok is attempting to debate a different point then you (though I will agree she's doing it very poorly, plus I only watched the beginning bc I had heard the analogy before). She's trying to debate the reason that we tell people about our religion and the love of jesus, not about the rules. I agree that you shouldn't have people come up to you and go "hey, I have a magic book and a funny feeling in my tummy that proves it, and it says you shouldn't do this". We as christians tend to forget that, that is not only not what the bible says, but ends up turning more people off of Christianity than just about anything else.
A better analogy for the love of Jesus would be that you have an alleged cure for cancer, that you used on yourself to prove it works. If you had that, you wouldn't hide it, you would want to tell EVERYONE as you just found a way to save lives. That being said, it's an untested drug, that you only have word of mouth evidence for, so some people don't want to take it. You wouldn't shove the drug down their throat without there consent (at least you shouldn't) but you absolutely would go up to every person you can and say "HEY! I found this drug, and I can't explain it, but the cancer that I had is gone. I can't force you to take this drug, but I would be a horrible person if I didn't at least try to convince you too take it".
The reason we as christians try to tell everyone about our faith is because we found a joy that we want to share with EVERYONE, because we all have a metaphorical cancer, being darkness, depression, addiction, anxiety, or whatever you personally struggle with and Jesus' love can cure it.
Thank you for reading this. If you want to debate, or ask questions on any of this, my email is jwkannel@gmail.com.
May the Lord bless you and keep you.
I always enjoy your emails. Very glad that your hard work has paid off for many people to reject their indoctrination. Thanks. Concerning the post from a family friend about the spirituality debate. So much there annoyed me.
“He is coming back some time unknown to man”:
Clearly this person only knows the indoctrination, has never read the texts carefully or thought for himself. Jesus preached that judgment day would happen during the lifetimes of his disciples and other priests, That generation (generation of people he was talking to) all over Matthew, Mark and Luke. This expectation of the imminent destruction of their oppressors, the Romans, by their god was common at the time, not even original to Jesus. This is why Jesus said to sell everything you own and provide the poor, come with him and leave their families. These events were to happen very soon. He described the events such as stars falling to Earth and the moon turning red, the arrival of the son of man to earth with his angels, judgement day where all men would be judged, and then told his disciples that some standing there would not taste death before all these events happened or that these events would happen that generation. Jesus was wrong, never happened. Even Apostle Paul, in 1 Corinthians 15, believed judgement day was imminent. A verse often quoted says the precise hour or day is not known, Jesus said during that Generation it would happen. Later Christians realized Jesus was wrong and adapted Ancient Greek Fiction of souls (Socrates & Plato 400 BC) & afterlives (Homer’s Odyssey 700 BC) into the Christian tenet that a person’s disembodied soul would go to heaven/hell when they die. Souls were popularized by Socrates/Plato 400 BC. They admitted they could be wrong. They had zero knowledge of brain physiology, only imagination.
“Greatest man in history”:
No, perhaps the greatest legend in history. Jesus the legend is sourced from the Jewish man Yeshua. His legend grew from ‘games of telephone’, by science ignorant, magic believing, superstitious, primitive people mixing more ancient fictional ideas, stealing from older religions, telling stories to get others to believe in their version of Jesus.
“He had no army, yet kings feared him”:
No, the Roman emperor of that time had no idea who Jesus was, no third party mentions. The Pharisees feared him.
“No battles, yet He conquered the world”:
Not really in many ways. Christianity holds 31 percent of belief in the world today, hardly conquered. The spread of Christianity is due to a Roman Emperor Constantine, for political reasons of control, and had nothing to do with truth. There was much infighting amongst his empire over religions. His mother was Christian. Christianity had only 10% belief at that time. In 312 CE, Emperor Constantine dictated that Christianity would be the prevailing religion, thus putting the power & gold of the Roman Empire behind it. Constantine is mainly responsible for its spread, and later in 391 CE, Roman Emperor Theodosius outlawed its competitor Paganism. Again to unite their empire, control over people.
“He committed no crime, yet they crucified him”:
Sigh, again wrong. Jesus died for breaking the laws of Rome. Charges were political, sedition against Rome. ‘And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto him, Thou sayest it”. Placard on the cross said King of the Jews. The Barabbas story is fiction, no such historical precedent existed. Josephus the historian makes no mention of Barabbas. That partly created anti-semitism. The entire Jesus died for your sins was made up by later Christians.
“Yet he lives today”:
Only in the minds of indoctrinated Christians. Religion is propagated over millennia by the indoctrination of naive, trusting children by parents who were also indoctrinated as children. A vicious cycle of deceit for control.